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Saturday, July 21. 2007The stronger sex, getting stronger?
That's what the evidence seems to be saying: Women are getting stronger. (And we all know that women are the stronger sex—right?)
For example, recently I discovered Meagan Chappell, a teenage powerlifter who is already breaking records with competition lift totals nearing 1000 lbs (in the 132-148 lb weight class!). Meagan's accomplishments are impressive, especially at this early stage; she is a very strong girl, and only getting stronger. But Meagan isn't alone. The female athletes of today are gaining strength at an almost blistering pace, and who knows what the next generation has in store. I'm reminded of something Dr. William Marston, the creator of Wonder Woman, said in a 1942 interview. He predicted that women would get stronger—thanks to fewer social barriers—and would continue to do so until they equaled or surpassed men in physical strength. Dr. Marston also thought this would be good for society as a whole; perhaps he was right on both counts. One final note. There are a lot of costs involved in a sport like powerlifting and it would be difficult for Meagan to cover all of them on her own. So please donate and help Meagan out if you can—you'll find a link for that on her website. That way, Meagan can focus on her lifting and continue to get stronger, in the process moving us closer to the day when Dr. Marston's vision is ultimately realized. Trackbacks
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Great to see that we women/girls are gaining on the men! I have seen many examples of that myself.
During the age 11-13 we were ahead of the boys in almost everything, even strength. It's great to read that we are almost equal to the guys even as grown-ups.
It's not just women athletes. It's women in general. I just graduated high school last year and it seemed like each new class of girls was taller than the last. Freshmen taller than sophomores, who were taller than juniors, etc.
At the same time men are getting weaker due to (1) feminizing chemicals in our environment, (2) poor diets, and (3) sitting at the computer all day. Meanwhile girls are kicking butt, working out and eating well. Not to mention we're getting taller, living longer and getting better grades. I love it. I've always towered over the boys and used to feel awkward about it. Now it's becoming more normal for us to get big and lift big. We're leaving the weaker sex in the dust!
Shackles crumble, and each generation of young women, now it is yours, Alyssa, further avers the daunting truth which craven restrictionists had schemed to keep at bay.
You've embraced that strength, Alyssa--kudos to you!
Alyssa:
I am curious about something. As you and your female peers get bigger, stronger and taller, do you find yourself more apt to take the initiative in relationships with men, for example, by taking the first step to ask a man out?
Where is the love? All I hear is hatred for men. We just want to love you. I am curious if you have a son to raise will you love him or just love your daughters.
You are all saying that women are also of the same intellectuality as men and then you say that only men are sitting at computers all day, what about the women that are supposedly smarter, shouldn't they have a good job too. Who are you to decide who's getting better grades, are you an education minister!
Have you even researched into the fact that women are eating better than men. And you probably don't know anything about brains. All you ladies know that men are biologically the more dominant sex, and that is still very far from changing. To conclude yes, it is evident that the worlds strongest lifter is almost as strong as a fit man. But you are not looking at the general or average population of human beings. None of the women out there have even researched anything, what does that say about women. Secondly Rob Mars, you are saying that women have shaved down more time then men, that has a scientific reasoning behind it which you should have known before you posted your comment. Once humans run at a fast enough speed it gets very difficult to beat it by a millisecond, so all you are saying is that women in thi generation have finally got of their butt and started to run faster.
Where to start with this one?
1) Yes, women have brain-intensive jobs, last I checked. 2) I don't know of any merely "fit" men who can bench press 600+ pounds. 3) Women have shaved more time any way you look at it, not just in absolute numbers.
Whoa whoa! Watch the sexism.......ok I mean men have shown that ALOT in the past, but don't compare us all to them. There are a lot of sophisticated and athletic guys all over. HEll I'm aspiring to be a surgeon and a US reserve marine just like my countless relatives who died in combat years before me. I've done over 15 sports and my friends, even more. We all have A's and we treat men and women with equal respect. My parents and theirs brought them up that way, if this is the way society is going and the real impression women have on us, maybe I shouldn't. (And we do not just sit in front of computers!! >:(
I see the changes going on everyday. Women are the majority of the school athletes now, and 2/3 of all the people working out in the gyms now are women. Females are better educated and are on track to become the majority of breadwinners in American households by 2025. That also translates to women catching and even surpassing men in athletic endeavors. I am a female executive and I need to be strong both mentally and physically. I surpassed my husband many years ago in the strength dept, by sheer dertermination to be better. I worked out 5 days a week without fail, and the results were stunning to him. He is proud of me, and had accepted a secondary role of caregiver and house husband. Empowerment for women is here, so ladies go out and grab it! We can beat the men and dominate!
My story is similar to yours. My wife works out and tops me in every athletic competition we have had. Her business thrived, while mine failed. I am now her personal assistant and homemaker. I am so proud of her and accept my role dutifully.
You women thought it was wrong for men to dominate you,but you think it perfectly alright for women to dominate men.Women describe their idea of a hunk as abled bodied, well built, thick set. In a few words strong men. This means your attracted to signs of strengh in men. You get turned on by broad shoulders, muscular chest, etc etc. This is why men used to work out so that you would be attracted to them.
But now women are getting more muscula then men. Now your outsmarting yourselves. Who are you going to be attracted to once your stronger on average then men? Are you also working on how to get yourselves pregnate so that you can just make it with each other. What are your plans for us men? You won't need us anymore. Just keep a few of us around for procreation purposes? It is the duty of the strong to protect the weak. Doesn't sound to me your going to be interested in protecting weaker males. You just want to humiliate men and puff up your already gigantic egoes by dominating men. Are you prepared to go fight our wars? Since your stronger why should the weak fight to protect the strong. A lttle advice to you cocky girls don't kick the male ass too offten and two hard because if you do we will say enough is enoug and go hit the gyms with the same determination you girls have been hitting the gyms, and since your out to take all the good jobs away from us and then gloat over it we will start hitting the colleges and we can have a real war between the sexes. That's apparently what you want by the way you sound in your posts.A little warning here. Your already seeing from the tone of this post that your arrogance is exciting the man in me to go to the widow and say"I am mad as hell and I ain'going to take it any more . If its war you want your ABOUT TO GET IT IF YOU DON'T START HAVING A LITTLE HUMILITY. I'll be satisfied with equality. But you don't want equality you want female domination. I am happy for girls proving they can be strong. No I am not intimidated by stronger women. I just don't want women humiliating me in the public areana. I want your respect and am afraid that you won't respect me once your stronger than me because women are turnned on by signs of strengh which you women will have more signs of then men. Iam curious as to how your going to be attracted to weaker males when you describe your ideal man as broad shouldered, well musscle chest and wash board abs. In other words your attracted to tarzan but your pushing for all the tarzans to be females. I await your response.
You raise some interesting questions and as a forward thinking modern man, I will attempt to answer some of them.
The future is looking pretty bleak for us men. Women are all set to become dominant in every aspect of life - including physically and they will forget all about that equality thing they used to go on about. The fact is that men have held women back for too long and in striving for equality, women have realised that they are in fact superior, this is why they have no scruples about referring to the future in terms of dominance. Everything is set to change - including the female ideal of manhood. They will no longer view broad shoulders and flat stomachs as desirable in a mate because they will have the physical genetic prowess to pass on themselves. This is already happening today - look at how male sex symbols are getting skinnier and skinnier, Russell Brand for example. Male pop idols are getting younger and younger – Justin Bieber, JLS, Jonas brothers et al. There was a time when women used to lust after hunks of manliness – but now they seem to prefer less threatening little boys. Anorexia in young boys is on the increase because they want to look like their idols -. More and more I see gorgeous women out with not hunks - but skinny dudes with narrow hips and drainpipe jeans. What women look for in a partner has always been a mystery to me and always seemed to be contrary to what was good for them, but these day it looks like there is definite shift in dynamic with a less manly image gaining favour. Talking of jeans - I went to buy a new pair of jeans recently – I have always kept myself in shape. I’m 6ft 2 and take a 34-inch waist. But I was shocked at how difficult it was to find anything larger than a 29inch waist size in any of the stores I visited…what does that tell us? Women will be physically stronger than men in future because women are using their bodies more and more and men are using their bodies less and less, but they will still send mostly male armies to war. There will still be tough guys around and the types of men who join the military won’t be that different from today - but as the male of the species doesn’t have a womb – he is always more expendable than the female, so whereas we might see more females in the military in senior positions – our female rulers will be clever enough to make sure the guys still do all the dirty work and that applies generally. As to the idea that men are going to realise what’s going on and take to the gyms and colleges to wrest back control – I just don’t see that happening. Men are just too arrogant to admit they are in any danger and they are too suspicious of eachother and self-centred to stand together and unite against any threat. They will remain in denial until it is too late – which in my opinion…it already is I don’t think we can expect too much humility from women once they take control. Human nature just seems to have this “oppress or be oppressed” element to it. You can argue that two wrongs don’t make a right but it will fall on deaf ears as women start to enjoy having real power and all the things they have missed out on in the past – yes, I think they will take great pleasure in punishing the current and future generation of males for the sins of their fore-fathers and there will be nothing that we can do about it…
I have done a lot of research on why girls are on the accent and boys appear to be on the decline. The first reason is that back in the 60's through the 80's boys were out performing girls accademicaly. At that time the women's movement was comming into its own. these women couldn't accept that their alleged superior females were being out performed by their alleged inferior males so they claimed the educational system favored the way boys learn was the reason why boys excelled.
So give them credit they did a masterful propaganda blitz using skewed studies purporting evidence that girls were being handicaped. so the short of it is they succeeded in reforming the system under the false pretense to make education gender neutral but their real objective was to make the sustem favorable to girls and unfavorable to boys. The result is what we are now seeing girls are out performing boys. The next big reason why girls are out performing boys is because there are many more girl susport groups than boy susport groups. These suport groups for girls are telling their girls that in order to get the best paying jobs it is not enough for girls to merely equal male performance. Girls were being enouraged to out shine the boys to get a chance at the best paying jobs. thus girls are on a mission. they are on fire. This is why while boys are playing video games girls are studying hard. the gender gap will be clossed when A. the educational system is reformed to a truly gender neutral system and B. more boy susport groups spring up telling boys that they must equal the girls performances in order to get their fair share of the good paying jobs. This will only take place after enough males feel the pain and get off our collective unmotivated asses and realize that males are not inferior to girls. May the day come soon before to many young,angry, frustrated, jobless men start a revolution that won't be pretty and the future won't be wearing a skirt!
Load of rubbish I'm afraid. Men have always been the stronger sex, and always will. there are examples of great female strength but these are few and far between compared to the males.
Men have evolved over MILLIONS of years to be the stronger sex. A few generations is never going to change this gender divide. It is biologically and physically impossible for the female gender to surpass the males in any physical sense. Men are the stronger sex and the dominant sex due to evolution and biology. Men are taller, faster, stronger, in better shape and more athletic. Not only that but men are smarter, more ambitious, more driven, more competetive, and will ALWAYS strive to be on top. That is the nature of males, and NOT naturally of females. Men are also better suited to leadership and just about every skill going for professions. Men are more talented when it comes to business, law, lecturing (ie. teaching at the top level), politics, healthcare etc. Men are also better at key subjects such as mathematics and the sciences. Sorry ladies, you may not want to hear this, but men are the dominant sex and ALWAYS will be. Even in the incredibly unlikely event that females become dominant, it is biologically impossible for women to be competetive in terms of strength for literally tens of thousands of years, perhaps even more, of evolution (something which has been HALTED due to our reliance on technology). If you don't believe me on that last point, then please, watch the Olympics.
The load of rubbish arrived with your comments, Dan. Yours is very much the same reasoning that would have us believe women can't match the intellectual capacity of men because of their relatively smaller brain size. Only a fool really believes this today. Generally it is true that women have smaller brains than men, but their brains are wired differently, more efficiently (e.g., more neuron fibers in the corpus callosum). Perhaps you should ask Marilyn vos Savant; no doubt she could explain it better than I.
In nature, adaptability is the key to survival, not the particular characteristics possessed at any given moment. Women are far better at adapting than men, for if they weren't we wouldn't be here. What group has better chances of survival, a group with a male-female ratio of 100:1 or a second with that ratio inverted (1:100)? I'm thinking the latter. Nor are millions of years required for dramatic change to take place, for physiological change doesn't rely on evolutionary processes alone (epigenetics). Indeed, deliberate changes are possible within short periods of time, starting with the most complex organ in nature (neuroplasticity). Look at what women have accomplished in little more than a generation. Their marathon time, for example, now only 9 seconds off the men's 1960 record. Women have shaved over 34 minutes from their marathon time since 1972, men not even 6 minutes. And in what is perhaps the ultimate measure of brute strength, the bench press, women have reached the 600 lb mark, the upper-limit for men until 1967 and not a sure thing for the NFL lineman of today. Lastly, we already know from history that women are capable of doing precisely what you claim isn't possible (the Dahomey Amazons). When we watch the Olympics what we in fact see is women pushing themselves and doing more every contest, "evolving" at a pace that gives the lie to the male puffery you expound. references: http://www.marilynvossavant.com/bio.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetic http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neuroplasticity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marathon_world_record_progression http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Becca_Swanson http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progression_of_the_bench_press_world_record http://www.athleticwomen.com/blog/archives/28-Dahomey-Amazons.html
It's true women are biologically weaker than men and are more prone to illness and injury, especially since they're small. Of course, men will always have better chances of survival than women because they're much stronger and practical.
stop reading after I saw the word Evolutuon.....evolution is a way for scientists to make money...
Oh, don't be such an obscurant. Common sense alone understands evolution, for it is only change at work.
I am not sure women are stronger in their upper torso, quite the contrary. But it may be that women have always been stronger than men in other crucial areas, like the ability to resist epidemics or recover from serious injury or illness. We men also stand in admiration of women in yoga classes where the strongest, most agile and most flexible practicioners are most often, but not always, females.
Women also live longer than men, which is a key measures of strength (for me!).
woh woh woh allot of posers posting here as i can see , allot of females posting as males just to show that females are superior ? get over it , Male are stronger on an average , and men don't need to work out to over power a fit women , a fbb can be easily over powers by a mbb
its a fact and the reality , no matter how much women move ahead men will do the same
Now, bare with me because what I say at the end might surprise you, I do believe that Men are the stronger sex both physically and mentally, at least for the moment. When men put their mind to something it is hard to stop them. But women are most definitely catching up, and better, showing signs of possibly surpassing their male counterparts. Simply put, 75% of the guys I know are athletic... but out of shape, mostly due to beer and a preference for high fat diets and sedentary lifestyles. however, 75% of the women I know are slender, athletic, and surprisingly strong. 3/4 of the women I know have obvious Abs, while fewer than 1/3 of the men I know have Abs of even comparable levels. The women at my work place have bigger biceps, broader shoulders, and more muscular legs then the majority of the men working there. And in all of my advanced classes, the women out number the men, sometimes 2:1, with the opposite in the few remedial classes I have taken in subjects I am not good at. Math has become a class that is almost entirely Female dominated, while classes such as Sociology and Psychology are becoming safe havens for guys, sadly these guys tend to be Pot-heads.
I watched a 5'2" girl pick up a 120lb box with one arm that a 6'1" guy nearly 40% heavier could not without a second arm. BUT this does not mean that women are stronger, at least not yet. But why does it even matter? I am a man who loves strong athletic women, and I'm proud to say that I find muscles highly attractive, and as equally attractive and a well trained mind. I've asked girls to speak foreign languages to me in bed after watching them lift things I could not. I'm not afraid to admit that I kinda want a woman who is aggressive enough to take the lead when the time suits it. But I am by no means submissive. Raised by a conservative, Irish-Catholic family, I LOVE a good fight and have been raised in an environment of arguments and when I KNOW in my heart that I am right, I will fight like the devil for my cause. But... sometimes, I do want to be the follower. A woman in charge, bristling with confidence, a brain to be respected and a body strong enough to deserve it. Well, I think that women getting stronger is a good thing. I will not bow down to a women any more than I would expect her to bow down to me. Dominance, NO. True Equality and respect, YES. I'm a man, it's my job to be THE MAN... But sometimes, I like it if the woman can open up the pickle jar... especially if I can't. Just my opinion.
its not even close you can argue that women are already the stronger and more dominant sex.the only question is lol how irrelevant will men be next to women in the future cuase women are far from growing and getting stronger.i read an article well alot of articles that state men are actually shrinking in size.the ave size of a man has been shrinking consistently and at a rapid rate.another article i read was just titled the incredible shrinking NEW MAN.SO WITH WOMEN growing larger and more powerfull as time goes by and men getting smaller and smaller at an even faster pace and more feminized.ask yourself HOW MORE INFERRIOR and irrelavent will men become???talk about 20 or so yrs from now???it wont just be that males will become second class citizans.it will be males are going to be completely helpless to women in everything.not even a debat.men will be the women of the 1950 s and women will run this planet.men have already been reduced to a size women can deal with very easy.lol in 20 yrs sorry guys tour not only shrinking down to size while women grow.your shrinking in worth next to women.want respect ???youll get as much respect as women feel you need along with waiting for your women to come home to a clean house from work lolyes YES ARROGANCE and with good reason.reduced to a womans pet be happy living under the rule of woman cuase its not far off
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